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hello again everyone uh we are back um

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and we have next donna benjamin to tell

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us um

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about the open practice library and

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contributing to it so donna benjamin is

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a passionate advocate of free and open

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source software for the past two decades

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donna has been the glue for many

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successful organizations teams and

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individuals her volunteer work has been

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instrumental in helping open source

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organizations to upsize and sometimes

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downsize as they mature with their

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communities

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so donna will be accepting questions

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afterwards um

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so if you have any questions for donna

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and please do have lots of questions uh

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pop them into the questions tab in venus

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and i will pass them on to donna

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donna they're all yours

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thank you betsy

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hello everyone here we are

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at the lenox confereu 2022 and it is

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amazing um please join me in sharing

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great exuberance and gratitude to

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everybody who has put this on in this

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virtual space it's extraordinary

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i'm also coming to you from the unseated

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lands of the warunduri people whose

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language is woburong so i'd like to use

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one of their words woman checker to this

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session live and synchronous

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contribute to the open practice library

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thanks for the introduction betsy um i'm

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i'm humbled um and and kind of awed to

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be here so let's get on with the show

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but wait

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what's the open practice library i'm so

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glad you asked i've shared a link there

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openpracticelibrary.com

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learn which gives a bit of a blurb but

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let me start by saying that i first

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encountered this about three years ago

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it was introduced to me by the wonderful

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leslie hawthorne who some of you uh will

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when i when i looked at this i went

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where has this been all my life

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the open practice library brings

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and agile together and it was the first

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time i'd i'd really seen the the

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intersection of these things and for

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such a long time i'd felt that there was

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in common between the worlds of open

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source and the worlds of agile

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and agility kind of methodologies and

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yet the communities just seemed

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so separate so different there were a

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few bridges between those communities

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and there were a few people in common

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but they were completely separate events

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and different kind of groups of people

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so the open practice library

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brings them together in a way that i

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think is really awesome and

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early last year i i was um

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glad to take up the take the baton if

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you like and become the maintainer of

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opl as we call it the tla the

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three-letter acronym of open practice

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library is opl so i might use that as

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shorthand as we go

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um feel free to grab that link and you

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know multitask a little bit as i talk

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around what opl is but then i want to

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get into the into the guts of saying

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well how do you actually contribute to

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this thing because that's what i really

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people to to join me in this effort so

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it started out as a fork

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this is this is

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referred to as an outcome-based delivery

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model the infinite loop is something

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that um

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you know it we see a lot these days it's

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used in all sorts of diagrams it seems

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to have become the diagram of the day

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kind of thing you'll see it in devops

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in this case talking about the sort of

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infinite um back and forth between these

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different elements that um too often

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we've lived in silos um quite often in

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in sort of the agile delivery world it's

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all about delivery and we don't

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necessarily get to interact and engage

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open source community hasn't necessarily

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been as explicit in my experience of

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these different modes we kind of just

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roll out roll up our sleeves and and get

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and that's really close to my heart as

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one of the things that we um

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we advocate is just start don't don't

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get too bogged down in analysis

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paralysis but start somewhere and that

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might be starting with asking questions

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looking for and focusing on outcomes

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phase and and and then we've got a

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delivery phase so that's mobiusloop.com

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what we did with the open practice

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library was fork that and we added a new

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foundation layer and i actually it's

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probably not very good

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very good analogy for a foundation layer

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to think of it as a seesaw but i kind of

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has two components that you want to keep

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in balance and those components are

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other we want to keep

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our focus on technology and technology

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practices and cultural practices and

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methods in balance you can't have one

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without the other if you want to have a

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strong foundation

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so back to mobius there's three phases

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foundation of culture and technology and

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then we've got these three phases that

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are supported by that foundation

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much into the open practice library

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itself the phases all of that sort of

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stuff i want to really focus on

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the contribution piece how can you

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contribute in what ways can you

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contribute what sorts of people

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want to contribute what sorts of people

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um last year i wrote this this piece for

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opensource.com seven ways anyone can

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contribute to the open practice library

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and it can be as simple as spreading the

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word and i'm sort of seated the chat

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with a with a hashtag i'd love you to to

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help me help me do that

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contribute to opl

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it um jumping onto the site and adding a

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system then it sort of levels up from

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add a practice uh if you're if you're

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practice or methodology to

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get better teamwork out of your crew

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consider sharing that practice with us

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on the open practice library you can

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contributing and a low barrier to entry

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patches welcome or well volunteered if

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you do find a bug and you have the

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capability to help fix it so that's sort

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what i'm going to do is jump out of the

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presentation and jump through a few

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links and this is where i think

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practice library which has a bit more

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detail in it so that's my sort of plan b

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trusty my trusty team is going to share

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these links with you in the chat but go

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rather than historical reasons um things

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head to that uh the next thing is that i

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strongly recommend that you just

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account please go ahead and create one

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because that's the kind of way we do

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outstanding and waiting so that's

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netlify cms and that's really the

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content side of it so if you're

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interested in adding practices and

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improving practices then netlify cms is

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the place to play

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whereas github is if you're more

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interested in the community itself

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and the infrastructure of the community

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then that's where we sort of play with

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all of that

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um i said that spreading the word is one

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way to contribute and we're on the

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socials i did a post on linkedin a

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little while ago which got some really

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interesting responses

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we've kind of really activated twitter

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over the past year there is an instagram

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account which is has nothing in it um

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i'm not really a big instagram user so

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that's an area for future development if

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you like and maybe a volunteer might be

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interested in helping drive engagement

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around the community through insta and

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there's also a slack um a slack instance

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but it's

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this is problematic it exists etc i'm

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going to speak a little bit more about

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some of the problems in a little bit

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yeah

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so um

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yeah there's there's a lot to do the

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open practice library is has been around

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for about five years and and i've been

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the maintainer for less than one

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um

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the community infrastructure isn't well

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defined like we've used gita as our

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real-time chat

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um

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we've got this slack channel there's

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this hive or community

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comment system on the site itself

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so

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we don't really have any

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clear governance

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there's an issue around some questions

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around the code of conduct and how we

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might tweak that so there's work to do

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there so that community infrastructure

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piece that you know jono talked about

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sort of

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so beautifully

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yeah just yesterday

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and kathy talked about right community's

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assistance and some of our systems are a

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little bit like clunky or undefined or

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hard to access and that's an area that

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needs that needs help

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and the community processes as well

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aren't necessarily well defined like um

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how do you if you're out of practice

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what happens to it then um you know

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we've got a very uh optimistic and

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welcoming

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approach to accepting uh contributions

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uh perfect is the enemy of the good so

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we don't expect it to be perfect just

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like wikipedia you can start with a stub

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start with something and build on it

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that's fine but that's not necessarily

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as clearly communicated

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as it could be

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and then the big bits i don't have the

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time and i don't have the skills to do

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everything

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that i want to do there's so much to do

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there's so much potential here and and

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the community um

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that has contributed so far just is just

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wonderful but uh how do we how do we

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level up you know how do we how do we

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really make this um the sort of upstream

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that that it it has the potential to be

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and that's where i just really want to

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put it out there i i need help um and

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and i'm hoping that by

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sharing this at linux confay u i i might

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be able to

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recruit a few willing

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volunteers

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to to help me

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do this

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so that's the the the guts of sort of

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the talk part of it what i wanted to do

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so let me now go backwards a little bit

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and give you all an opportunity

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to um jump into github jump into the

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open practice library website itself if

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i go right back here and slash learn and

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maybe start kind of throwing up

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some questions that that we can respond

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to

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after this session we're either going to

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go into the um into the post

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post session chat or we might if it's

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possible if it's easy we might be able

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to set up some video a video chat room

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will sort of to be defined we have a

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video room betsy is amazing um so if

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you're interested in really having a

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play and getting you know um getting

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your kind of

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um hands dirty uh and and have some

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questions and see if we can figure some

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things out together because um i i i

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have some i have some be skills i also

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have the ability to break things in new

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and interesting ways so um

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there are some things that i haven't

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been gained to kind of touch and poke i

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still don't quite have my head around

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exactly how it all hangs together so

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that's sort of one of the to be you know

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um to do sort of thing um in hub there's

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a few little projects and stuff where i

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started kind of public putting some of

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my um to-do's publicly so yeah we kind

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of go through all of that as well how

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are we going for time betsy i think i'm

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way like i finished my material should i

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get it get a read from the room do you

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want me to go into some of my webinar

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content or do we want to start playing

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around with

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um github and netlify and twitter and

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all that kind of stuff how do how does

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the what does the room want next

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i can teach

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this is my uh other prepared um

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presentation and there's lots of stuff

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there but it's not sort of

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it's really my kind of plan b

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do people want to start having does

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anyone have any questions at this point

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okay before there's a little bit of a

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delay

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on the stream so they're only just

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getting up to you asking the question um

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we've got some people saying webinar

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content play with the tools i want to

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see natalie fee netlafey netlifie demo

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netlifi demo the cms demo demo demo

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let's do demo

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all right okay so i'll just switch to

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this tab

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and

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this is the open practice library for

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those of you who haven't hit the link

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there it is um learn more is that slash

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learn this this is what we say is we

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should send people to this page first to

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learn more about what the open practice

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library is and where it came from

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and all of that kind of good stuff um

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thank you red hat for being um our kind

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of sponsor and um

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big contributor to the to the first five

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years but i'm hoping um it will it you

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know in terms of it being the biggest

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contributor start i'm hoping that that

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will reduce over time as more people get

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involved it's all creative commons and

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mobius luke is is the is the upstream

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from from the open practice library so

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exploring the library itself um

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click think

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click think

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there we go

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this has a kind of cute little

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interactive component in it that um the

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the different phases uh if you click on

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them you actually get filter through of

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the different um practices that are that

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are there

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uh and there's a lot of them there's

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over 160 practices are in the library

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now

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the foundation

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and these little tabs also these little

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buttons sorry also filter through

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into those different phases of the work

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now

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tricky if you know the name of the

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practice then you can use this but it's

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a filter it's not actually search

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so you have to kind of know the name so

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there's one that

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so actually came up in one of the

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sessions today i think liz was talking

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about retrospectives and they are so you

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know just retrospect and it's filtered

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into

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these different retrospective practices

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i did some fantastic

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interviews with some folk last year

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which highlighted some of the

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kind of glitches and and and tricky bits

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around it so there's definitely lots of

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issues and we know about some of them

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and you know others kind of get

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uncovered all the time but uh you know

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this this um

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you know it's all open right so we want

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to we want to try to start to think

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about what can we do what can't we do

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what are our limitations and constraints

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our hosting situation is a little bit

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precarious

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in some ways

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and you know do i need to kind of put

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together a you know a case for getting a

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more robust kind of hosting

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infrastructure behind it yada yada all

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of these kinds of things and also the

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sort of funding model is a little bit

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questionable at the moment it's sort of

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all volunteer effort um and there's very

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small amounts of costs which are coming

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out of people's um pockets at the moment

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but it's not a lot so

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sort of it's sort of doable so that's um

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the site itself

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um

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this is netlify now i'm already logged

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in so it's not gonna take me through the

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screenshots that i that i showed but um

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you know you can see broadly speaking

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this this kanban that i kind of had

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there

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i can go in so this check-ins one has

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been sitting around for a while it's in

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draft mode the author hasn't hasn't had

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a chance to come back to it yet but this

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is the

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the content management side of it so

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there's a bunch of fields

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um

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you know check-ins are so you can see

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that here and it's sort of this this is

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pretty cool it's sort of live

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you can sort of see the live update here

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on the right

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so you literally can very easily hit

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improve this practice on any on any

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practice and find yourself you know in

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this

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in this interface um you can save it you

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can say no just delete those changes

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that was madness

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viewer preview and then importantly set

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status so you know fiddle around in

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draft when you're happy with it put it

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to in review

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once you've reviewed it with with

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someone we would like to sort of have a

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collaborative process there then then

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you can move it to ready and and then

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that's sort of a signal to me as the

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maintainer they go yep okay let me have

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a look and and merge that in

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okay so i'm just going to

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pop back

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to

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here now the other thing is if you are

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going to add a new practice for the

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first time

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you also need to create an author page

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for yourself

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so i'm going to go in there

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and

563
00:21:34,559 --> 00:21:38,960
it's loading all of the entries of all

564
00:21:37,120 --> 00:21:40,559
the authors that we've had contribute

565
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,960
which is awesome

566
00:21:40,559 --> 00:21:46,000
and in new author

567
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:48,240
this information is not actually um like

568
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,520
it's not a page we don't have a

569
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,600
we don't have a feature at the moment

570
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,600
for having a profile for our authors

571
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,600
that's on the would like to have or in

572
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:58,080
the sort of the wish list but do put

573
00:21:55,600 --> 00:22:00,159
your name as it would be displayed

574
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:02,400
as attribution and importantly your

575
00:22:00,159 --> 00:22:03,440
github username because that's how we're

576
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,200
doing

577
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,280
attribution right so they're the two

578
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:09,360
important bits the rest is completely

579
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:11,840
optional and not necessary but these two

580
00:22:09,360 --> 00:22:14,000
bits are necessary and then go ahead and

581
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,280
click save

582
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,159
okay

583
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,840
so

584
00:22:16,159 --> 00:22:19,840
let me now jump to

585
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,840
seven ways anyone can contribute to the

586
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,960
open practice library so this is on

587
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:29,919
opensource.com you can see

588
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:32,240
published that in in october

589
00:22:29,919 --> 00:22:36,400
and it sort of goes through it's a like

590
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:38,240
lightweight how to contribute to um

591
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:40,559
pretty much some of the things that i've

592
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,840
sort of gone over but that's an easy

593
00:22:40,559 --> 00:22:44,080
reference

594
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,120
if you want to have a dig around in

595
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,559
there

596
00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:48,400
and then

597
00:22:46,559 --> 00:22:50,159
let me switch to one of the socials

598
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,559
which is the

599
00:22:50,159 --> 00:22:55,039
twitter

600
00:22:52,559 --> 00:22:56,320
the twitter account for practice library

601
00:22:55,039 --> 00:22:59,039
when i

602
00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:02,000
um started when i was started

603
00:22:59,039 --> 00:23:05,520
took over the maintainership of this

604
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:07,360
it had um two followers

605
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:11,120
and i'm i'm pleased to be able to say

606
00:23:07,360 --> 00:23:14,320
we've grown that um 150-fold

607
00:23:11,120 --> 00:23:16,080
to 150 and even even today we've added

608
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,840
four new followers so that's all so this

609
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:20,159
is one of the ways that i'm going i'm

610
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:22,000
trying to kind of extend the reach

611
00:23:20,159 --> 00:23:24,159
and grow the community is through

612
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:26,960
outreach in various ways so twitter is

613
00:23:24,159 --> 00:23:28,320
one i mentioned um instagram as as a to

614
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,039
uh you know

615
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,840
to

616
00:23:29,039 --> 00:23:34,000
to do for the future linkedin wherever

617
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:36,159
like where people are we need to go to

618
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:38,159
them and evangelize what we're doing

619
00:23:36,159 --> 00:23:40,240
here and what we're trying to do and see

620
00:23:38,159 --> 00:23:42,400
if people are willing excuse me willing

621
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,320
to contribute so

622
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,320
that's one of the um

623
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,159
one of the ways that i i have some

624
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,000
skills there like i have experience

625
00:23:48,159 --> 00:23:51,440
using twitter but i'm sure there are

626
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,880
other ways and other communities and

627
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,640
other ways to connect that that we

628
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,000
haven't necessarily

629
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,279
explored

630
00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:00,080
so

631
00:23:57,279 --> 00:24:02,480
that is that now you wanted me to maybe

632
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,799
have a little bit of a look at

633
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:08,400
some of the other material

634
00:24:04,799 --> 00:24:09,600
that i covered so let me just quickly

635
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,000
um

636
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,840
go in here and and really just one

637
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:16,000
little thing about going back to the to

638
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,440
the very start and this is a bit of a

639
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,520
thank you

640
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:23,200
to red hat because

641
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:25,760
um i joined red hat

642
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:28,159
coming up on three years ago

643
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,840
after um i'd spoken to leslie hawthorne

644
00:24:28,159 --> 00:24:31,440
and and found out about the open

645
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:34,000
practice library i actually got hired as

646
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:36,000
an engagement lead and the open practice

647
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,120
library is a little bit like the

648
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,799
upstream

649
00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:40,159
for the open innovation labs which is

650
00:24:38,799 --> 00:24:41,840
where i

651
00:24:40,159 --> 00:24:43,520
you know the the part of red hat that i

652
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,440
work in i'm an engagement lead in the

653
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:48,400
open innovation labs and i sort of say

654
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:50,799
like well red hat enterprise linux and

655
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:54,960
linux linux is upstream to rel

656
00:24:50,799 --> 00:24:57,840
um opl is upstream to labs to our labs

657
00:24:54,960 --> 00:25:00,559
um and it started out as a way of

658
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:02,480
sharing knowledge in the team members of

659
00:25:00,559 --> 00:25:04,400
of labs and someone said well why aren't

660
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,159
we doing this in the open and that's how

661
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,400
the open practice library was born how

662
00:25:06,159 --> 00:25:10,320
do our the practitioners in our team

663
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,320
share our knowledge in a way that's open

664
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,799
and accessible and invites others to

665
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:18,000
contribute and and that

666
00:25:14,799 --> 00:25:21,520
that just really ignited my sense of um

667
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:23,200
community my sen my my passion for for

668
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,120
free and open source software but also

669
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:28,320
my passion for people and teams and

670
00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:31,440
helping them do their best work so that

671
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,880
that really um

672
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,360
that really f

673
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:37,520
um how can i say that really like

674
00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:39,840
ignited you know the the potential of

675
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,360
this for me and then you know a couple

676
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,400
of years later to be asked to be the

677
00:25:41,360 --> 00:25:45,200
maintainer

678
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:47,279
just felt like uh you know how did i

679
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:49,120
manage to to to score this kind of

680
00:25:47,279 --> 00:25:51,840
moment in my life where i literally feel

681
00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:54,240
like pig in mud and i'm able to you know

682
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:56,159
participate in this place it's just it's

683
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,400
just extraordinary but now i'm kind of

684
00:25:56,159 --> 00:26:00,240
realizing how out of my depth i am and

685
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,600
how much help i need and so this is

686
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,360
where i'm kind of like raising the you

687
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,919
know sending up the kind of flares and

688
00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:07,600
saying please help um i know there's so

689
00:26:05,919 --> 00:26:09,840
much in common between the open source

690
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:12,559
community and the agile community but

691
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:14,000
the connection is so is so tenuous that

692
00:26:12,559 --> 00:26:15,600
i feel like i just need to put out the

693
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,120
call and say hey

694
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,159
you know we've got we can there's so

695
00:26:17,120 --> 00:26:19,840
much we can learn from each other in

696
00:26:18,159 --> 00:26:21,919
terms of our practices let's do it and i

697
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,840
think like liz's talk this morning

698
00:26:21,919 --> 00:26:26,559
really speaks to that

699
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,360
in the world of sre and observability

700
00:26:26,559 --> 00:26:29,039
and

701
00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:31,200
but the people's side of it right it's

702
00:26:29,039 --> 00:26:32,400
not just technology it's also bringing

703
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,919
together these things as the

704
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,240
socio-technical

705
00:26:33,919 --> 00:26:38,159
systems that they are that we can't have

706
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,679
one without the other which comes back

707
00:26:38,159 --> 00:26:42,720
to

708
00:26:39,679 --> 00:26:46,000
the balance of our foundation

709
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:49,440
of culture and uh and tech together so

710
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:52,799
yeah that's that's it so let's go to

711
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:54,559
questions if there are any um if not

712
00:26:52,799 --> 00:26:57,600
then i might go and have a quick break

713
00:26:54,559 --> 00:27:00,640
and see you in the chat shortly so betsy

714
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:04,159
so we have you we've got um two

715
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:05,440
questions um so i'll ask them now uh and

716
00:27:04,159 --> 00:27:08,320
then we'll move on

717
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:10,480
so the first one is do open practice

718
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:13,679
creators and contributors ever have any

719
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:16,080
issues with ip for example proprietary

720
00:27:13,679 --> 00:27:18,640
practices going after them over use of

721
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:20,880
names trademarks etc

722
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,960
we haven't yet and i think we've been

723
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:25,600
lucky um

724
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,480
our get out of jail free card here is

725
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,399
that

726
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,760
a practice needs to be contributed by a

727
00:27:28,399 --> 00:27:31,760
practitioner

728
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:35,120
and there's no copyright

729
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:37,840
um on an idea

730
00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:40,960
right so if you write it in your own

731
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:43,039
words and from your own experience

732
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:46,159
and legitimate and give credit and

733
00:27:43,039 --> 00:27:48,640
attribution to where that idea came from

734
00:27:46,159 --> 00:27:51,919
then i think legitimately you can share

735
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:53,679
it um as fair use and creative commons

736
00:27:51,919 --> 00:27:57,120
but i am not a lawyer and that hasn't

737
00:27:53,679 --> 00:27:59,840
been tested great question

738
00:27:57,120 --> 00:28:01,520
um when practices are superseded what

739
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,840
are the triggers to clean it up how is

740
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:06,720
that decided oh what an excellent

741
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:08,799
question uh part of the uh bit that you

742
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,799
know here be dragons and and we don't

743
00:28:08,799 --> 00:28:13,039
necessarily have all the all the

744
00:28:10,799 --> 00:28:16,159
infrastructure and processes that we we

745
00:28:13,039 --> 00:28:18,480
need and that kind of ongoing curation

746
00:28:16,159 --> 00:28:19,200
is one of them it also speaks to one of

747
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,960
the

748
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,960
you know wished for features that we

749
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,720
don't have is a way to curate a list of

750
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,640
you know what is a good starting set of

751
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,159
practices or what's a recipe of

752
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,919
practices these are some of the things

753
00:28:28,159 --> 00:28:31,520
that we'd really like to develop and

754
00:28:29,919 --> 00:28:34,080
curating for

755
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:36,240
quality popularity

756
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:40,240
applicability in different scenarios is

757
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:42,720
also is also an area of future need and

758
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,720
development

759
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,200
okay there's one more questions with

760
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,840
which has received quite a lot of

761
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:52,799
upvotes and normally i would moderate

762
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:55,279
out a question like this um but i think

763
00:28:52,799 --> 00:28:57,200
it's actually um

764
00:28:55,279 --> 00:28:58,799
there's probably some things that that

765
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,240
that you could

766
00:28:58,799 --> 00:29:02,480
um

767
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,240
i think it is good to ask you especially

768
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,240
in light of the conversations we've been

769
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,640
having at this conference about

770
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,240
community and burnout and so on uh the

771
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:15,039
question which is now up to eight up

772
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:15,039
votes donna how do you remain so awesome

773
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:20,720
the secret to that is that i'm not

774
00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:20,720
really i'm just pretending

775
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,120
okay

776
00:29:21,919 --> 00:29:24,320
yeah

777
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,399
it's good um

778
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:29,360
but the but speaking to that the the

779
00:29:26,399 --> 00:29:31,440
bigger intent there is burnout is real

780
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,200
and and you know some of you may have

781
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,960
found me missing in action at various

782
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,399
times and sometimes i have to go do

783
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,480
something else

784
00:29:36,399 --> 00:29:41,120
um i also

785
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:44,480
really want to acknowledge the amazing

786
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:47,120
support team my support team of um my

787
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:49,760
felines who are curiously absent right

788
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:52,240
now but also some of you know um mr

789
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,880
peter levitink also known as kfuego who

790
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:57,919
frankly just is he was chief sanity

791
00:29:54,880 --> 00:30:00,000
officer for linuxconfigure 2008 and he

792
00:29:57,919 --> 00:30:03,679
hasn't stopped being my chief sanity

793
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:06,159
officer um i couldn't do as much as i do

794
00:30:03,679 --> 00:30:08,399
without um you know without without that

795
00:30:06,159 --> 00:30:10,559
so acknowledging the people around you

796
00:30:08,399 --> 00:30:11,679
um taking the time to fit your own mask

797
00:30:10,559 --> 00:30:14,480
before

798
00:30:11,679 --> 00:30:16,399
fitting others um it's really important

799
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,799
so you don't see when i need to go and

800
00:30:16,399 --> 00:30:20,640
be in a in a in a dark room in a quiet

801
00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:22,240
place right you see the lights are on

802
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,159
kind of donna not that the lights are

803
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,240
off donna

804
00:30:24,159 --> 00:30:28,480
yeah and um

805
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,240
yeah support network is so important

806
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,200
whatever species

807
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,919
yeah

808
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,679
yeah it's great to hear um from you

809
00:30:33,919 --> 00:30:38,240
because you are such a

810
00:30:35,679 --> 00:30:40,080
big bright personality that keeps a lot

811
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,240
of the community inspired i think

812
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,960
judging from the chat so you are

813
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,720
appreciated thank you everybody that

814
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:49,440
that's that's you're gonna make me cry

815
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,960
i'm gonna not cry because it's not cool

816
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,799
but no i'm not even going to say that

817
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,480
because crying's fine actually crying is

818
00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:57,200
really good and if you need to cry then

819
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:59,919
i wholeheartedly encourage you to do so

820
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:02,080
where and when and as you you need to

821
00:30:59,919 --> 00:31:04,399
crying is not something to be afraid or

822
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,640
ashamed of

823
00:31:04,399 --> 00:31:09,600
absolutely are there any other questions

824
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:11,279
uh no that's it so we still

825
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,200
are at um

826
00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:15,519
almost 14 minutes before the end of the

827
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,279
time slot so we're finishing a bit early

828
00:31:15,519 --> 00:31:20,080
but um i think that's

829
00:31:17,279 --> 00:31:23,200
good so there is a um

830
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,480
there is a video oh yes but i do have

831
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,799
that i do have a little bit more

832
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:29,039
material if people feel like they want a

833
00:31:26,799 --> 00:31:30,720
little bit more but i'm also like really

834
00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:33,279
up for finishing early gives people a

835
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:35,440
chance to go take a walk

836
00:31:33,279 --> 00:31:36,880
go look at something other than a screen

837
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,960
all that kind of stuff so maybe we could

838
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:42,159
get a quick read from the from the

839
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:46,000
comments if people want more stuff or

840
00:31:42,159 --> 00:31:47,279
more posters in the chat real quick

841
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,399
it's going to take a moment because

842
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there is a time delay

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we can be mindful

844
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and intentional and breathe in this

845
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moment

846
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uh someone says early is good

847
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someone says more stuff one more thing

848
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one more thing okay that's that's like a

849
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compromise all right someone says we

850
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okay one more and then we'll move to the

851
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discussion

852
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all right cool let me just so i'm using

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miro there's one more thing is i would

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absolutely love

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to

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learn about um

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an open source alternative

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so the one more thing i'm going to do is

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is where i think the part of the

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intersection of isn't that going to come

861
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in okay it's practice and experiment i'm

862
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just going to zoom in on this part of

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the talk and i'll also dig out the link

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to where i did this this webinar um and

865
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share that practice and experiment this

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is really key to the open practice

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library and key to what we do at labs

868
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but also something that the open source

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community has done from the beginning

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right is

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have a go

872
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just start try something make a make a

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um you know have a first crack like

874
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linus's very words putting out linux oh

875
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,480
this is just a hobby it's never going to

876
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be big and professional right it's like

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start with something and

878
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and lean into the collaborative

879
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:15,679
potential of what you have started you

880
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,760
don't necessarily have to have all the

881
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answers you only have to have the

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beginning

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and then the welcome invitation to a

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community to come and help make that

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better

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and and i think that's really sort of

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at the heart of open practice library of

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open communities and of great technology

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that supports humans so

890
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on that note i will um thank you all so

891
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much and please thank betsy for being

892
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our amazing mc

893
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and wrangling i know wrangling me is not

894
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nothing i would ever want to have to do

895
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because i know how much hard work it is

896
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,279
so thank you betsy thank you to the

897
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,120
whole av team and thank you to the whole

898
00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:55,679
lca

899
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:58,240
infrastructure core crew

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00:33:55,679 --> 00:33:59,679
incidental accidental as you like it

901
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,640
thank you very much and thank you to all

902
00:33:59,679 --> 00:34:04,000
of you

903
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:06,960
for spending time with us today

904
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:10,240
and thank you donna for sharing like

905
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:12,480
such lovely and interesting things and

906
00:34:10,240 --> 00:34:16,159
inspiring us all

907
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:18,399
um okay so we have a video chat channel

908
00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:21,679
for follow-up discussion it is called

909
00:34:18,399 --> 00:34:23,919
the open prox open practice library

910
00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:27,440
discussion room you'll find it in the

911
00:34:23,919 --> 00:34:29,040
channels um list in the sidebar it'll be

912
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,320
near the top because the video chat

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channels are

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00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,720
up so open practice library discussion

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um so

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uh and then it is also um

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we're going into our lunch break for

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this conference or other time zone

919
00:34:42,399 --> 00:34:47,200
appropriate long break um so

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sessions will resume

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at 1 30 conference time

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um so yeah don't have any last words

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about the discussion room or anything

924
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um i will get the link for etsy and see

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00:34:57,839 --> 00:35:01,200
you in there shortly

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great

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all right bye