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hello pike online 2021 education track

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we are here

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with renee noble for our very first talk

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of the day get cooking with cookaberry

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and i am

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i'm gonna say this a lot of times today

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but i'm really excited um not just

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because i know renee and that this talk

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is going to be fantastic

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um but because it's it i'm i'm keen i

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want to get more hardware i want you to

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tell me why this is fantastic and i'm

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sure you will um also it's just a really

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cute graphic i don't know let's start um

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so let me first introduce renee uh renee

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is a software engineer tech educator and

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community and team cultivator um having

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spent the last six years growing the

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girls programming network from a local

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delight to a huge nation-spanning

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operation which i happen to hold very

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dear to my heart um

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massive props renee uh renee founded her

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own business connected code renee's aim

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is to bring project-based tech education

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and opportunities and materials to

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schools and organizations and community

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groups around australia through school

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incursions clubs holiday programs

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teacher pd sessions and more um renee do

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you do personal interventions perhaps

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just asking

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renee is also thoroughly enjoying being

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a cambridge computer science teacher at

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presbyterian latest college

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as well as consulting

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as a speaker in the tech education

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diversity and project management spaces

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what i'm hearing is renee that you do

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way too much you excel at it all and we

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are ridiculously

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happy to have you here for this

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fantastic talk

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excited to be here nikki i'm really

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excited to tell you all about my journey

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today on how i got cooking with

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cookaberry my journey from

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knowing very little about the kookaberry

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to

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you know discovering it then being like

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maybe it's not all i thought it was

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going to be and then ultimately being a

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complete convert who talks about it all

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the time to people i'm like yeah you got

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to get on this cooker very

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so here is how my journey went uh you

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might remember me from previous years

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but you'll notice that i'm yes not

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wearing my

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you know green outfit with my green

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slides uh i'm of course still involved

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with girls programming network but i

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have started my own business as nicki

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said connected code and wanting to

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connect coding with context community

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and curriculum i've loved you know i

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love all the stuff i've been talking

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about at pycon for the past few years

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and the kids love it i've had so much

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support from the community and

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especially from the pycon education

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community so i thought actually we need

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to have this kind of stuff available

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more of the time not just you know at

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our quarterly gpn workshops but also you

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know throughout the year and people all

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over australia need to be able to access

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and we really want to have this cool

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project-based learning where you

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understand how coding can impact your

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life um and your family and your friends

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accessible to everybody so i'm taking

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what i've been doing and telling you

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about for the past three years at pycon

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and trying to deliver to everybody

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through school incursions or code clubs

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or community groups or teaching pd so

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that's how i've started out on this

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journey and it's actually the start of

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my journey with the quicker berry as

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i you know started out and i really

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wanted to improve access to education

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coding uh generally as well and you know

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talking to other groups and people was

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definitely part of the plan and a friend

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of mine jim musserad you who's you know

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very popular in the pike

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python education space

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from the micro python foundation came to

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me and said hey i've got some mates at

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at the austen foundation and they've got

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this new thing called the cooker berry

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and jim had mentioned a bit about the

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quicker very to me before and what i

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understood was it's a you know a micro

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bit on steroids and i'm a fan of micro

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bits i've been using them for a while

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love to use them at gpn they feel like

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make really cool projects so i went okay

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whatever i can help with with the cooker

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berry and give it a go i love to try a

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new piece of tech

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so i said yeah i'd be happy to give them

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a hand give them some opinions on how

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this will actually you know roll out in

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the classroom what you know might be the

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clinchers what what can they offer what

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kind of projects might be great i'd love

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help out however i can so connect me up

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so this is where i start out my journey

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at ant anticipation bill i'm going to

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call it um on my journey to full convert

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um mountain of the cooker berry life

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jim connects me up with julian at the

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osgen foundation and

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he sends me through my first cooker

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berry kit so it's got a couple of cooker

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berries uh some batteries and some of

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these cute 3d printed stands as well as

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some peripherals that are really great

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to get you started things you might want

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a speaker a buzzer potentiometer a light

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these are just a few of the many many

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peripherals that they have going i've

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cooker berries so

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here here's my you know

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here's my explanation of this lovely

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anatomy drawing that uh the stem

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foundation is providing we've got our

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led oled screen it's fantastic um big

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display we've got three leds

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down in just under the screen we've got

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four of these push buttons twice as many

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as the micro bit so i'm getting pretty

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hyped at this point

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uh and then we've on we flip it over and

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we've got all of these ports so these

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which is super handy um so you can plug

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straight into our speaker at this at the

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time i got this there i

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didn't have i don't have a uh micro bit

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version two so i don't have any on-board

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speakers so

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this this was a pretty exciting and you

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can plug in any sort of things with the

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three or four pin uh adapters

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compass magnetometer and radio

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software we've got cooker blockly here

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so you can get your primary kids coding

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and get them ready for python and on the

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got coding and python and we've got this

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fantastic serial on the left which i'll

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i went okay i gotta get started with

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this so i started by looking at some of

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the pre-installed apps so here on the

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cooker berry is that you can store a

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bunch of files on it so you can go store

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up your files you can give it to their

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students to give them a try

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outside so you have all this stuff

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stored up and you didn't have to be

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connected to a computer to load to flash

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i also then went and coded a few of my

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own things hello world a classic

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uh some use of the potentiometer the

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buttons you've got to get amongst the

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buttons and the leds

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and also we have the what i call hello

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cereal coming up which is

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you can just print straight to the

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cereal and it's just there you don't

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have to open any extra menus or anything

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to find it super good for debugging as

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well as the screen being super good for

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debugging because you have you know that

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way to actually see what's in your

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variables rather than you know having to

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do some sort of ad hoc weird debugging

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to work out why on earth is mike you

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know micro bit maybe not having a pro

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having this problem and or watching

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those errors scroll across the tiny five

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by five display so this is looking

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the quicker berry were the lcd is like

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that screen it's great i love it it's

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just makes you able to communicate so

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much more stuff than you could with the

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micro bit four buttons i love it amazing

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bit so that's fantastic

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the speaker it just plugs in terrific

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it's super fun to do those alligator

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clip connections to your headphones but

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it's using up one of your ports uh you

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know on your micro bit and you sometimes

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end up with alligator clip mayhem if

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connected to your uh connection point at

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got these pre-coded apps which are great

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inputs and outputs on your cooker berry

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stem activities so if you want to get

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kids doing some data science maybe

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some different you know

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graphing and calculations you can use

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the kookaburra for a bunch of different

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things not just coding and the ozdem

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foundation is providing a bunch of

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different apps to use the things even if

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you not a coder yourself or a great

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starting point for seeing where you

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might want to go with your creations

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saving the multiple apps also great you

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can have your pre-coded apps you could

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provide apps to your students or you

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could get students to create a bunch of

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apps and maybe head out into the bush

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and take a few measurements of different

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things for ph or humidity etc so that's

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all fantastic and i'm loving that but

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there is no allocator clip connection

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pads which was like i shouldn't be this

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disappointed about this but i am and the

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like i thought that kookaburra is a

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better micro bit so i should be able to

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make all my micro

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bit projects but better surely

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how would i bop

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bop it is a classic gpn activity where

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we connect up our pads at the bottom to

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our micro bit and i was like but i

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really want to make bop it and all the

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other kind of creative activities we

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have that rely on making weird things

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out of foil and cardboard and blue tack

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and connecting them up that that i've

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been like constrained my thinking to

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that for a while

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so i went well despite all the great

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features i'm not completely sold

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because i was at a loss for what to

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build because of those constraints that

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it had on my mind all that time i hadn't

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really delved out of there and i was

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like well what if i was more stuck on

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all the things i couldn't make than the

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things that i could make

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so here i hit my conflicting for

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thoughts cliffs i hadn't made my cooker

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berries obsolete my micro bits obsolete

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with the cooker berry so i'd still want

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to have both so i was like oh we've had

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to choose what would i do well some of

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my projects depend on these pads but you

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know i see there's so many benefits of

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the cooker berry

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so the old stem team then asked me to

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come up with some ideas that they might

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be able to make with the cookie berries

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they wanted to get out and do some

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outreach

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in some regional areas and i thought

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okay this is really in line with

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what i want to do in terms of making

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context related coding projects so i'm

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going to give this a go and give it a

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play

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and i started

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thinking of the kookaburra from a new

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perspective because you could really

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make these learning journeys from

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research to making something calibrating

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it and then collecting data and then

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displaying that data and communicating

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and it's like okay this is really on

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brand with what i want to do it's about

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getting it out there and making it

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relevant to each different group of

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people so okay this is pretty cool you

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know it's no it's like bop it but i i i

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think this has actually got something

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it's real life stuff

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so that's something i really want to be

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involved with

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and i kept thinking he's like okay what

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else could i be making and i often went

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back to like what i'd seen on the micro

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bit and what i could do with the micro

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bit uh i was kind of caught between

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these mindsets of going with what i know

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and exploring all these new

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possibilities that were a bit unfamiliar

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and i didn't really know which way to go

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with them so it's easy to get drawn back

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into what you're familiar with

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but as i asked about more peripherals

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and tried them out they spawned more and

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more and more ideas and i was realizing

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that the ease of creating highly

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practical tools with the cooker berry

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was that's the key

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so

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then

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i was like if i wanted to make something

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that was this real with them with a

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micro bit like you could possibly do it

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with the breakout boards but you know

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there's not that many ports on them so

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you might be going down like to br

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breadboard city and you don't

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necessarily want to be doing that uh if

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that's not really what you're trying to

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cover in your curriculum it does take

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time and there are a lot of you know

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things that can go awry if we're doing

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that

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so yeah this was a great way to get

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making real projects

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no wiring problems drivers included it

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all just fits and worked i could be used

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in all different kinds of context to

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make real solutions so i was thinking

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about

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health and sports with peripherals for

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heart rate monitors you could use the

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accelerate accelerometer to make a step

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counter

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there's so many different uh

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environmental centers for moisture

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temperature humidity and many more and

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you can just start solving problems

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around your own house maybe you need a

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light sensor to tell you that your

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plants aren't getting enough light or

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you need motion to detectors to see if

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your dog's getting out

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there's a lot of things that you could

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do

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i really started to change my tune when

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a friend asked me to come along to the

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conservatory of music at the university

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of sydney to show

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some music teachers to soon to be music

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teachers in their teaching cohort

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how to integrate technology into music

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learning in their classroom

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music technology wasn't something i'd

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spent a lot of time on before i hadn't

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heard much about with micro bits i had

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to get to thinking about what you could

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possibly do

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i was quick to come up with a few ideas

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that would be quick to code in quicker

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blockly because i wasn't going to chuck

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our tech newbie music teachers in the

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deep end with teaching them python in an

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hour and i certainly wasn't going to get

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out the breadboards in that hour to try

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and get them making something so i gave

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them some things that they could make in

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cooker blockly just by plugging in these

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peripherals

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so i had a few different ideas some easy

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ones without you know plugging much in

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at all metronomes bpm counters which are

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great um but also some ways to make some

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musical instruments so we had this uh

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pitch bend

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and we also have this i'm going to call

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it my moisture theramin using a moisture

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sensor to create music and some of the

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students even with a little bit of

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programming experience were able to

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create their own instruments

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like this that accelerometer based

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musical instrument there

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but my real pistol resistance was

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this my play-doh xylophone

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everybody really got on board with this

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one

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so for my squishy circuit days

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i knew that play-doh was a good

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conductor but also it would make a

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variable resistance it's not that

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conductive and the cooker very really

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got me thinking about circuits and

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voltage rather than just creating

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buttons like with the boppit where it's

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an open or closed circuit it's really

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a lot of these measurements a lot of the

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devices the potentiometer and the all

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the probes really give you

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information in terms of voltage so it

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was really good to change my thinking

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about what we could be teaching kids and

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actually giving them more of an

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education on how the technology was

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working and how data is transmitted and

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communicated and how circuits work

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really

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so i used some of the components

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probably in an unintended way to allow

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me to hook up my plato but it was a big

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hit amongst the students and also the

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guys at the oldstem foundation

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so at this point i'm going the cookberry

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is not a micro bit there's no ideas to

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be discovered i just have to play around

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a little bit so i found myself here in

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my slow epiphany valley um figuring out

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what i might be able to do and seeing

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this technology from another new

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perspective for what it really is

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so

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having learned all this i went okay i

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need to get this in the classroom to see

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actually how it plays out and as nikki

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mentioned i'm lucky enough to be working

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at plc sydney as a cambridge computer

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science teacher for the year 9 class and

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i went okay we've got to teach inputs

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outputs coding and algorithms for this

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curriculum the cooker berry seems great

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it already started on python earlier the

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in the year with a tic-tac-toe game

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so i was like let's let's give the

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kookaburras a go and i got the girls to

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make a whistling countdown timer so we

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started off with some basics about

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timing and embedded systems

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and worked our way up to more accurate

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timers and then adding some fun sound

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effects so we ended up getting this

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project

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[Music]

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the girls picked it up super fast it was

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amazing to see they have no embedded

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experience before and they loved the

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finished product and really understood

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how it worked and they especially loved

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all playing their countdown timers at

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the same time to get a very loud

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whistling noise

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so given how fast the girls had picked

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it up i went this would be a great

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opportunity to

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do some creative coding activities with

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the cooker berry so for their first

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assignment i challenged them to make

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an app for the cooker berry that helps

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with learning a specific area

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and i won't spoil it now the my four

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girls who did this project are actually

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in the student showcase this afternoon

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with some awesome projects so you should

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go along and watch that for sure

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but i can say that they've made some

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very creative things using

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different ways the cooker berries can

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work with different components to make

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unique and actually useful projects that

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actually solve real problems that they

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had when they were learning

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so

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having seen it in the classroom i was

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like you know what this cooker varies

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more than just a toy i'm not really

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about toyified tech is what i call it

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these you know the spheros and lego

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robotics they all have their place in

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the classroom for getting

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kids excited about technology and giving

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them at you know a place to start with

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something tangible that they can

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interact with but they also all have

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their limitations of what they can do

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and how real they can feel because you

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know they are just you know a ball that

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rolls around or things like that you

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can't necessarily use it in your

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everyday life

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but the cooker berry apps really seemed

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like a great prototype for something

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that is a real thing you've got real

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interactions with the ui from the screen

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and you can plug in all sorts of

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peripherals that you you know would find

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as components of a real embedded system

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if you were that you might buy from the

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shop so it seems like a really good real

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prototype for students to be making in

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the classroom with only a couple of

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weeks of embedded systems experience and

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less than seven months of python

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experience so next to this the micro bit

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was actually kind of starting to look

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like a toy to me it was really great for

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making games like bop it or

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uh you know toy programs and maybe even

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toy little projects that you could use

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around the house but with without you

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know all these ports in the back you're

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going to need at the very least a

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breakout board or you might even need to

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get the breadboards out to make

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something that starts to feel real so i

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was really warming up to these cooker

556
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,440
berries at this point

557
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,960
so

558
00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,720
at this point my take on the cookie

559
00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,480
berries was they're really easy to get

560
00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,840
started with you can play with these

561
00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,159
pre-installed apps which are really

562
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,600
useful for seeing how they work and

563
00:20:28,159 --> 00:20:31,440
seeing how you plug things in without

564
00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,360
having to get coding first you didn't

565
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:36,400
need any embedded experience to start

566
00:20:33,360 --> 00:20:38,720
coding and debugging was way easier than

567
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:40,799
i'd found with the micro bits where you

568
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,960
end up with that forever scrolling error

569
00:20:40,799 --> 00:20:44,799
message across that 5x5 display just

570
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,880
being able to print something out or

571
00:20:44,799 --> 00:20:49,520
seeing in this in the serial what the

572
00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:51,600
error was um or printing out your

573
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:53,440
variables to the screen was really easy

574
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:56,080
for the girls to comprehend and not make

575
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:57,679
it seem scary and not seem like their

576
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,280
project was broken

577
00:20:57,679 --> 00:21:00,880
there's all the same things we'd learnt

578
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,559
with python before

579
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:05,120
that they could use

580
00:21:02,559 --> 00:21:06,960
in this to do their debugging

581
00:21:05,120 --> 00:21:09,520
it was great to see how real the

582
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:11,360
projects felt to them and we didn't even

583
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,200
need much peripherals to get that

584
00:21:11,360 --> 00:21:14,559
happening you could use none you could

585
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,720
just you know be pressing buttons and

586
00:21:14,559 --> 00:21:18,240
using the screen or you could be

587
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,480
plugging in a speaker maybe a light and

588
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:22,799
that's it and it really is plug and play

589
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,320
you can just get started with plugging

590
00:21:22,799 --> 00:21:26,559
something in

591
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:28,880
and it was really ready to grow with

592
00:21:26,559 --> 00:21:30,159
you can make real solutions to problems

593
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,600
you've seen that people know how to

594
00:21:30,159 --> 00:21:33,679
interact with you don't need to be like

595
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:36,080
well in the micro bit you when you see

596
00:21:33,679 --> 00:21:37,600
the star then you need to shake it or

597
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,960
you need to press the a button you don't

598
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,200
need to have those you can just explain

599
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,559
it on the screen you can combine all

600
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,480
your peripherals in different creative

601
00:21:42,559 --> 00:21:46,000
ways you have so many options and you

602
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,240
can even combine your favorite

603
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:51,120
non-cooker berry components like this

604
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:53,200
fun rainbow light uh you can use

605
00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:55,679
peripherals for adding you know

606
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:57,280
connecting clips to whatever items you

607
00:21:55,679 --> 00:21:58,960
have and you can even connect up your

608
00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,960
little bits kits which i was excited to

609
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,320
hear about and if you do run out of

610
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,799
ports in the back i've just learned

611
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,559
about these breakout boards which are

612
00:22:04,799 --> 00:22:08,240
really fantastic they have so many ports

613
00:22:06,559 --> 00:22:10,000
so i'm excited to try some bigger

614
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,320
projects with them

615
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:14,240
so at this point i was like the

616
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:17,280
kookaburra offers low barriers to

617
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:20,559
meaningful real projects that's that's

618
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:23,360
it and high capacity for creative real

619
00:22:20,559 --> 00:22:27,840
world applications so people can get

620
00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:27,840
started and then just keep on going

621
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,799
so here i am full convert and i keep

622
00:22:31,120 --> 00:22:34,480
telling people about it i've arrived at

623
00:22:32,799 --> 00:22:36,240
the destination or is it just the

624
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:40,320
beginning because i certainly have some

625
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:43,200
more plans for the cooker berries

626
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:45,440
so from my musical endeavors at the

627
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:47,520
conservatory of music i've decided to

628
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:50,000
make a full course both in blockly and

629
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:51,520
in python for creating fun musical

630
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,600
instruments taking kids from everything

631
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,679
from just pressing one of the onboard

632
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:58,640
buttons to make a sound

633
00:22:55,679 --> 00:23:00,960
to making full-on musical instruments

634
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:03,400
like these paper pianos and toilet paper

635
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:10,950
roll clarinets

636
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:10,950
[Music]

637
00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:14,159
i also have some

638
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:18,000
exciting incursions planned for next

639
00:23:16,559 --> 00:23:19,919
year

640
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,600
using the cooker berries using them to

641
00:23:19,919 --> 00:23:23,200
build escape rooms using various

642
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,760
peripherals to make different puzzles

643
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:27,200
for other teams to solve and using them

644
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,280
for scavenger hunts and detective

645
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,200
mysteries actually collecting data

646
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:33,679
graphing data to see

647
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:35,520
what you know who the cookie thief might

648
00:23:33,679 --> 00:23:38,559
have been or to find clues to get you to

649
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,559
the next location

650
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,400
and finally

651
00:23:40,159 --> 00:23:44,080
i'm still bopping with some with some

652
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,640
learning i figured out how i could keep

653
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:49,120
my bopping life still happening

654
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:51,440
after you know my endeavors with the

655
00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:55,360
uh plato xylophone and the plato

656
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:57,440
xylophone even uh showed the cuckerberry

657
00:23:55,360 --> 00:23:59,520
team that the kind of things that i want

658
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:02,480
to be making with these in the classroom

659
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,440
and they in fact made me this new

660
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,440
uh

661
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:08,159
new component here so i don't have to

662
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:11,360
keep uh shoving sewing needles and

663
00:24:08,159 --> 00:24:14,080
resistors in to pull up or pull down my

664
00:24:11,360 --> 00:24:16,640
uh three pin connector so yeah the

665
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:18,559
cooker fairy team is very open to

666
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,480
feedback from teachers and what they

667
00:24:18,559 --> 00:24:22,799
want and what they need to get making

668
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,159
projects that they love in the classroom

669
00:24:22,799 --> 00:24:26,159
and there's so many peripherals out

670
00:24:24,159 --> 00:24:28,240
there that you can get using

671
00:24:26,159 --> 00:24:30,080
uh so and of course i'm gonna keep on

672
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:32,880
cooking i'm loving working with the old

673
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:34,240
stem foundation giving them feedback on

674
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,679
how things go in the classroom whether

675
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,360
it's their software their materials and

676
00:24:35,679 --> 00:24:39,200
helping them with their documentation

677
00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:42,559
and features for the cooker varies just

678
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,679
like on that last slide

679
00:24:42,559 --> 00:24:45,440
if you want to get in touch with the

680
00:24:43,679 --> 00:24:47,279
austen foundation do get on their

681
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,960
website they are getting there they will

682
00:24:47,279 --> 00:24:50,720
be more mainstream with the cooker

683
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,559
berries shortly but you can just get in

684
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,080
contact with them via email if you are

685
00:24:52,559 --> 00:24:55,200
very excited about the cooker berries

686
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,960
right now

687
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,880
thank you so much for listening today i

688
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,640
hope to get some awesome questions from

689
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:03,360
you feel free to get in contact with me

690
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:06,000
or my quicker very obsessed cats uh

691
00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:06,000
anytime

692
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,960
i should unmute my microphone

693
00:25:11,279 --> 00:25:14,880
fantastic thank you so much renee that

694
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:18,240
was

695
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:20,320
great uh we have a bunch of questions um

696
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:24,480
that are hiding here over on my other

697
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:25,440
monitor as i look awkwardly to my right

698
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,120
um

699
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:32,080
okay so

700
00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:34,000
um the the most upvoted question um is i

701
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:37,200
think the question that we spoke about

702
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:39,840
even before the start of this talk um uh

703
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,919
these look great where can i buy some uh

704
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,679
it it seems like they might be only

705
00:25:41,919 --> 00:25:44,720
available directly to schools at the

706
00:25:43,679 --> 00:25:46,640
moment

707
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:49,520
yes i think that at the moment that is

708
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:51,120
the case uh and julian is working

709
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,039
directly with schools to get out a bunch

710
00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:55,279
of kids there's only about 500 of these

711
00:25:53,039 --> 00:25:57,360
out in the world so far

712
00:25:55,279 --> 00:25:59,600
at a variety of schools and institutions

713
00:25:57,360 --> 00:26:01,360
so if you're keen get in contact i'm

714
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,039
sure they're always looking for people

715
00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:05,039
to you know test them out and they will

716
00:26:03,039 --> 00:26:06,559
be going mainstream soon i hear they're

717
00:26:05,039 --> 00:26:08,720
getting a new website that will tell you

718
00:26:06,559 --> 00:26:12,320
all about the features and more

719
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:15,279
pre-made apps and more components soon

720
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:17,679
excellent um i'm excited because i yeah

721
00:26:15,279 --> 00:26:19,840
that i think that really resonated with

722
00:26:17,679 --> 00:26:23,360
a lot of the audience and there's

723
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:25,360
definitely um a sense that we all need

724
00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:27,039
more microcontrollers

725
00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:29,120
in addition to the ones that we just

726
00:26:27,039 --> 00:26:30,720
generally having lying have lying around

727
00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:32,000
on our desks already

728
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,640
um

729
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:36,960
uh now i had a self-injured question

730
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,960
interested question um

731
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,640
do we have more examples of what

732
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,480
students have made with the cooker

733
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:45,039
berries and i think we're going to hear

734
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:47,200
more of that this afternoon yeah seven

735
00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:48,799
we've got seven projects from my girls

736
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,840
coming up this afternoon they're very

737
00:26:48,799 --> 00:26:52,640
very fun

738
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,000
um uh

739
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,679
fantastic

740
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,880
um

741
00:26:55,679 --> 00:27:00,240
uh

742
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:03,360
what is the networking like uh was a

743
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:05,840
question um one of the things that this

744
00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:08,799
person adores about the microbits is how

745
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:10,640
easy uh writing networking code is do

746
00:27:08,799 --> 00:27:12,400
you have any experience with that i've

747
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,159
done only a little bit of the radio

748
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,520
things in cooker blockly at the moment

749
00:27:14,159 --> 00:27:17,600
you can't set different channels but

750
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,200
they are working on that so you are able

751
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:22,080
to have more than the one channel in

752
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:24,399
your classroom but so far super easy if

753
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:27,120
you you know for the me alone in my

754
00:27:24,399 --> 00:27:29,760
house with two cooker berries very easy

755
00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:32,240
to you know set you know set it up send

756
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:34,480
a message receive it too easy

757
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,600
excellent um yeah that

758
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,440
that is

759
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,799
so much fun to do in a classroom so that

760
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,640
that's good to hear

761
00:27:38,799 --> 00:27:42,279
um uh

762
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:45,440
another question for what's the

763
00:27:42,279 --> 00:27:48,080
documentation like for cooker berries uh

764
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:50,080
is there a bank of learning resources or

765
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,760
tutorials for teachers

766
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,159
that's actually what i'm working with

767
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,840
the old stem foundation to make sure

768
00:27:54,159 --> 00:27:57,600
there are good resources so that's kind

769
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,600
of why they're not fully rolled out yet

770
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,760
they're just in trial phases but they

771
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,120
are working with me and with other

772
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,039
people to make sure it's going to be

773
00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:06,080
awesome getting started guides awesome

774
00:28:05,039 --> 00:28:08,320
project

775
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,080
guides and awesome slides to use in your

776
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,360
classroom and mini projects to do along

777
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,960
the way

778
00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:14,080
fantastic

779
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,960
that will make it

780
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,159
yeah that'll be really valuable um i've

781
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,000
got running out of time and a few more

782
00:28:18,159 --> 00:28:21,840
questions are they similar in price to

783
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,640
the micro bit any idea on that

784
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,960
so

785
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,399
at the moment i know they're not like as

786
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,320
mass produced as the micro bit they're

787
00:28:26,399 --> 00:28:31,600
all aussie made which is really great

788
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:33,600
the micro bits about 25 20 to 30 of

789
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,360
these i know the only thing i know is

790
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:38,240
you get the cooker berry you get a

791
00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:40,559
battery and you get a little stand

792
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,919
um for seventy dollars so that's

793
00:28:40,559 --> 00:28:44,080
including the battery so i'm not sure

794
00:28:41,919 --> 00:28:45,440
about battery list and as well as the

795
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,200
cables so

796
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,200
i'm not sure and the exact differential

797
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,320
but the batteries are really useful as

798
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,080
well so

799
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,440
batteries are pretty cool uh possibly a

800
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,360
related question will it be available

801
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,919
outside of australia

802
00:28:55,360 --> 00:29:00,320
i have to assume so but i'm not a

803
00:28:57,919 --> 00:29:02,480
hundred percent sure but i can't see why

804
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:05,440
not the goal is to put a quicker berry

805
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:07,200
in the hands of every year five child so

806
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,960
that might be their first point of call

807
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,960
but i'm sure they wouldn't you know that

808
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:13,120
they want to help people learn and they

809
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:15,200
do do a bunch of work with the uk so i

810
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:17,200
have to assume so yes

811
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,440
um we are at time but there are two more

812
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,600
questions so i'm gonna be mean and just

813
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,679
keep going haha uh any chance the

814
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:26,320
hardware designs might be released as

815
00:29:23,679 --> 00:29:28,240
open source hardware i'm not sure that's

816
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,679
that's definitely not my domain i'm not

817
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,360
from the old stem foundation i'm not

818
00:29:29,679 --> 00:29:33,600
from the cooker berry team i just i'm a

819
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,200
really big fan of these cooker berries

820
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,679
um and i'm doing a little work to help

821
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:40,240
them out uh because i love to make sure

822
00:29:37,679 --> 00:29:41,679
there's great resources so ask them that

823
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,200
and there's one more

824
00:29:41,679 --> 00:29:45,679
and there's one more question but i'm

825
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:47,200
gonna save it for the hallway track

826
00:29:45,679 --> 00:29:49,200
after the question is does the toilet

827
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,360
paper clarinet actually have a breath

828
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,279
sensor or is it just a fun shape we can

829
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,679
talk about toilet paper and clarinet in

830
00:29:53,279 --> 00:29:59,600
the hallway track so would you please

831
00:29:55,679 --> 00:30:03,120
all join us there right now and then

832
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:06,080
come back uh for our next speaker um

833
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:08,880
because it's going to be a great one um

834
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shrey is going to talk about python type

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hints and how they can supercharge cs

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education and i will see you there

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thank you so much renee that was

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fantastic thank you for having me i'll

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pop into the hallway track in a few

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minutes once i click over to there

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thanks everybody